When Will the Madness End? (FvF Ep. 212)

In Episode 212 of Facts vs Feelings, Carson Group’s Ryan Detrick, Chief Market Strategist, and Sonu Varghese, Chief Macro Strategist, ask the question on every investor’s mind: when will the madness end? With the Nasdaq 100 down 6.66% in October and the S&P 500 up just a penny over the past five months, the hosts explain how a violent tug-of-war between tech and everything else is hiding enormous turmoil beneath a sideways index. The median S&P 500 stock gained 7% in October, the equal-weight index beat the cap-weighted index by the widest margin since April 2009, and tech and communication services now make up roughly 46% of the index.

From there, Ryan and Sonu dig into the AI spending boom, with hyperscaler capex estimates for 2027 climbing to about $1.4 trillion, free cash flow turning negative, and $3.1 trillion of off-balance-sheet commitments raising the question of whether it is all worth it. They also break down the “hawkish hold” from the Fed, arguing that policy remains easy given 6% nominal GDP growth and 3.1% core PCE.

The episode wraps with a look at midterm-year seasonality, the Binance Bitcoin heist, gold and silver, and the data center ballot measures to watch on Election Day, along with their view that a fourth-quarter rally is still possible if tech returns to leadership.

[Key Takeaways]

● The S&P 500 closed October at 7,580.07, just a penny above where it closed on May 29, and has traded in a range of only about 3.5% for three months, which is in the bottom 1% historically. Under the surface, the equal-weight S&P 500 rose 4.9% in October while the cap-weighted index fell 0.9%.

● Concentration is the driving force: tech and communication services are about 46% of the S&P 500 versus 37% in December 1999, and the top 10 stocks now make up about 39% of the index versus 25% in 1999. Ryan notes that other developed markets are often even more concentrated.

● Hyperscaler capex for 2026 has been revised up to about $800 billion from an initial $515 billion, and 2027 estimates have jumped to $1.15 trillion, or about $1.4 trillion once SpaceX is included. Growth is expected to slow to just 9% in 2028, though estimates keep getting revised higher.

● The funding gap is growing: hyperscaler free cash flow has swung from about +100 𝑏𝑖𝑙𝑙𝑖𝑜𝑛 𝑎 𝑞𝑢𝑎𝑟𝑡𝑒𝑟 𝑖𝑛 2024 𝑡𝑜 𝑟𝑜𝑢𝑔ℎ𝑙𝑦− 40 billion, and off-balance-sheet commitments total about $3.1 trillion, roughly 3.5 times what is on balance sheets. The big question is whether the capital cycle is worth it.

● Q3 earnings are up about 30%, and for the first time since Q4 2022 the S&P 493 is growing earnings faster than the Mag 7, at roughly 32.6% versus 22.6% for the five that have reported. ISM manufacturing PMI hit 55.5 with the prices index at about 75, reinforcing the inflationary growth story.

Jump to:

0:00 – Welcome And The Madness Quote

1:35 – ISM PMI Signals Inflationary Growth

3:50 – October Whiplash Under The Surface

9:40 – Concentration Risk Then Versus Now

18:05 – Sideways Index With Hidden Turmoil

22:55 – Earnings Surprise Beyond The Mag 7

26:50 – Hyperscaler CapEx Hits Trillion Scale

40:05 – Off Balance Sheet Deals And Capital Cycle

40:55 – The Fed Stays Easy Despite Data

47:40 – Midterm Seasonality And Need For Tech

52:20 – Bitcoin Heist AI Hacking Gold Silver

58:55 – Election Watch Data Center Ballot Measures

 

Connect with Ryan:

• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryandetrick/

• X: https://x.com/RyanDetrick

 

Connect with Sonu:

• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sonu-varghese-phd/

• X: https://x.com/sonusvarghese?lang=en

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